"There are varying opinions about lead."
"I mean, obviously, people like Rembrandt and a lot of people throughout art history have famously used lead white…but because of health and safety as well…it's obviously something that's become quite an obsolete way of thinking."
"But I treated myself a while back. I bought this big cartridge of lead white made with cow manure exactly the way Rembrandt made it hundreds, you know, years ago. And it was very expensive, but it was a little treat to myself."